18:49:15 From Stow TV to Denise Dembkoski(Privately) : Thanks, all set. 18:49:33 From Denise Dembkoski to Stow TV(Privately) : Thank you! 19:34:29 From Claudia : this is from August itb s October now 19:37:18 From Joel Lindsay : We're most interested now in the plan going forward, not a review of the entire process up until now. 19:38:24 From N. Rogers : Have you reached out to other high schools to see how their hybrid models are designed? We aren't the only ones who have the same challenges of rotating students. 19:38:59 From Claudia : we already saw this plan in August we want a new slide new plan 19:40:06 From grace : They did NOT end up having 4 synchronous classes per week. Teachers felt it was too much screen time, so they have 2 synchronous 45 minute periods, totaling about 90 minutes. That is about the same as the one 85 minute period per week in the hybrid model. 19:40:13 From Kevin : I am sorry my son was in the task force and they did not get that choice and def. did not vote on it! 19:41:45 From Kevin : This does not focus on relationships at all!! 19:43:13 From Dara Ambrose : You stated that the majority of parents wanted "our" teachers to teach the remote academy however you did not mention that a clear majority (>70%) of parents expressed a preference for a hybrid model when surveyed. 19:43:36 From Heidi Felt : We would like to know the plan moving forward 19:44:36 From Jenny Jacobsen : Speaking of science....how can labs be expected to be reproduced at home. Labs would be an ideal addition to in school opportunities. 19:45:55 From Joel Lindsay : What are the things that would need to be done to move to in-person education? Are there changes/augmentations to the school physical systems that can be made to allow this? 19:46:20 From N. Rogers : Families should be given a choice, because remote does not work for every family even if the teacher time is greater. 19:46:37 From Pina's iPhone : why canb t live stream all week to increase learning in hybrid? 19:47:32 From Claudia : can the parents revote ? kids should have a choice and they want to go in a few days a week like other schools are doing 19:47:38 From N. Rogers : Do you have a sense of how many students would want to do hybrid vs remote so you know what the number of kids in the building would be? 19:47:42 From Dara Ambrose : And as pointed out by grace once you exclude the asynchronous classes the time with the teacher is almost the same in both models so we are not getting a benefit from the fully remote model. 19:48:16 From grace : Can we look into portable air filters? Other schools are doing this. 19:48:56 From Dan and Chris Miller : What are the steps we need to take to get the high school prepared for in-person learning? 19:49:17 From Noella Ricci : We want a choice. Full remote is not enough. Our seniors are losing so much. 19:49:40 From N. Rogers : I'm sorry, but my questions have not been answered. 19:49:41 From Joel Lindsay : The BLW Engineers evaluation and the guidance from ASHRAE and DESE include portable HEPA filters as a measure to supplement the existing systems. Why not do this? 19:50:27 From Pina's iPhone : Also, the meet and greets need to be with the studentsb  teachers and their classmates that they currently have in their classes now. Randomly having students sign up and doing ice breakers when they get there with other students or teachers that are not in their classes isnb t really a productive use of in-person connections. 19:50:32 From Dara Ambrose : Regarding communications the problem is that the questions are not really being answered and since there is no opportunity for two way communications at the school committee meetings parents cannot follow up to get a real answer. 19:50:33 From Dan and Chris Miller : From what you are saying, it sounds like in-person learning is not in the planning for the future. 19:50:37 From grace : The gap is the plan going forward. 19:51:59 From N. Rogers : The rates in our communities are very low. 19:54:15 From Heidi Paulter : NRSD is at the lowest level of transmission, why is there no discussion from the administration of ongoing planning for full in person learning? Worcester Public - a "red' covid city is developing a plan for a full return when they meet the transmission threshold. NRSD should be in person months ahead of Worcester. 19:58:12 From Claudia : other schools are doing this why not nashoba thatb s our question 19:58:16 From Joel Lindsay : Brooke is answering a relatively minor question at great length, but this is not the question we should be discussing 19:58:27 From N. Rogers : Our high schoolers are out working and living wearing masks, they can do this. You should give them the opportunity. 19:58:28 From Dara Ambrose : A Question for Principle Cullinane - given your concerns about the Hybrid models lack of teaching time is it your position that the only options are full remote or full in person? 19:58:35 From Dan and Chris Miller : Please tell us what is the plan going forward. 19:59:51 From grace : So does that means our HS students can't go back, because that space has been given to RLA teachers? 19:59:51 From Dara Ambrose : Can the chair please ask the Superintendent to focus on the key topics 20:00:04 From Steve Cullinane : No we can do a hybrid model but there will be much less instructional time. Our school building will not fit full in person with the Guidelines we have to follow. 20:00:25 From N. Rogers : So the high school can't go back because the rooms are being used?! 20:00:34 From Claudia : can we have a parent / school Committee meeting 20:01:38 From Michelleb s iPhone : can we please zero in on the plan moving forward for the high school-and not focus on what our options were in August 20:02:23 From June : My remote high schooler is learning a lot more than my hybrid middle schoolers. Hybrid isnb t necessarily better. 20:03:52 From Terri : The high school teachers are doing a fantastic job of educating our students right now. School is for academics - let's give them as much academics as possible. They can socialize outside of school. My hybrid middle schooler does not get much on his days at home. 20:04:43 From Terri : Three feet apart inside a building is not safe according to the CDC. 20:05:13 From Dara Ambrose : When do we get to see the hybrid plans in your "back pocket" and what is the criteria to move forward with them? 20:05:14 From grace : We heard from teachers last night at the Open House that students are reporting a high level of stress. Academics are important but so is their mental health. 20:05:20 From Claudia : we need live stream 20:06:20 From N. Rogers : When is the plan to go hybrid? 20:06:21 From Joel Lindsay : Live streaming is a critical issue. It seems NRSD is unique in that the teacher's MOU won't allow live streaming. Why? 20:06:47 From Theresa O'Riorden : if the school isnb t adequate, and itb s filled anyway with the remote academy, then can we look at renting a building somewhere? Because according to whatb s going on this year, Ib m worried that our kids will not be going back next year. We parents need to know what the plan is so we can move our kids to private school if theyb re not going back. 20:07:58 From Dara Ambrose : The recent survey which the high school did not allow parents express a preference for hybrid so its misleading to say the results of that survey supported full remote 20:08:00 From June : You shouldnb t make your decision based on the survey alone. Safety should come first. 20:08:26 From Terri : Three feet is not safe according to the CDC 20:09:32 From Jen : This is the frustration point of the parentsb &no answer to the question. 20:09:53 From Joel Lindsay : There are numerous factors that determine relative safety. Going to 3 feet instead of 6 feet is not automatically unsafe if other measures are in place 20:10:32 From Dara Ambrose : We are getting very mixed messages here - the superintendent says its not the building then the principle say the building is the issue. 20:10:35 From Melissa Whalen : I am a student at the high school, I wanted to join so that I could have a say in how my future goes. There has been studies done to show that the school's ventilation system is safe enough to have students in the school in a hybrid format. These completely remote classes are not fostering any teacher-student relationships like you claimed before. If you are looking for relationships, there is no way to do this other than have at least hybrid. Students are suffering in many other ways than academically, all you focus on is are the students learning, but what about how are the students doing emotionally. Every single student that I have talked to wants to be back into the school in some way or another. -Dylan Whalen 20:11:26 From Heidi Felt : We want a voice and transparency of the plans moving forward. 20:11:54 From N. Rogers : Please listen to the students 20:11:57 From Theresa O'Riorden : Thank you, Bob!!! 20:12:07 From June : I think they should let the high school educate our kids and stop fighting. 20:12:10 From Dara Ambrose : Well said Robert. 20:12:28 From grace : Bob and Stan, thank you! 20:12:34 From N. Rogers : No one is asking for full in person learning at this time. 20:13:04 From Dara Ambrose : Steve no one is forcing anyone to go in person - we are asking for a choice 20:13:13 From Melissa Whalen : ^^ 20:13:32 From Tracy : We need a choice, not a history lesson 20:13:41 From Dara Ambrose : Steve we are asking for clear criteria not a fixed date. 20:14:17 From Dan and Chris Miller : We are looking for a plan for the future. A plan for the building. 20:14:21 From Tracy : We need a plan for the high school 20:14:31 From June : Our kids will get a lot less education in hybrid. Look at how little the middle school hybrid kids are learning. 20:14:57 From Lindsey : Thank-you, Steve. 20:14:57 From Ellenb s iPhone : who said k-8 hybrid isnb t working???? 20:15:18 From Dara Ambrose : Actually I think K-8 is working well given the challanges 20:15:42 From grace : Statements like this beg the question - when will it change? Are you saying the high school will stay remote until a widespread vaccine is available?? 20:15:55 From Kevin : Steve- Socially the High School students are crying for help! 20:19:28 From Noella Ricci : Steve, you are out of touch with what is happening to our HS students. 20:20:14 From Claudia : was that even an answer why we donb t have live steam 20:21:04 From Dara Ambrose : Unfortunately again we have not received clear answers from the District administration 20:21:11 From PJ MacNeil : LBMS Middle School parent here - asynchronous days too light daughter done by 11am each week. Hearing same from other parents, not all, but need more rigor than busy work 20:21:26 From N. Rogers : I would also like to say the teachers are doing an amazing job, this is not about them. 20:21:52 From Tracy : 100% agree teachers are doing a fantastic job 20:22:03 From Dara Ambrose : Agreed 20:22:17 From grace : Agreed 20:22:56 From Melissa Whalen : My teachers have been doing an amazing job with the circumstances -Dylan Whalen 20:23:06 From Melissa Reiner : Some parents are happy with the remote learning model and realize this is temporary... so I would hope if a hybrid model becomes feasible that families still have a choice of options. Thank you to all of you for all of your hard work and efforts. No easy answers!! 20:23:55 From Tracy : K-8 is going lunch why can't HS 20:24:14 From Lindsey : Lot less kids in k-8 20:24:20 From Natasha Don : Because the high school has a MUCH larger population 20:24:29 From Heidi Felt : Why cant students go from 8-12p no lunches there are options. 20:24:32 From Kevin : Lunch can be outside! Stop with excuses! They only have 7 classes in one day! 20:24:37 From Natasha Don : In winter? 20:24:49 From Lindsey : In the rain? When it is 20 degrees out? 20:25:08 From Dara Ambrose : Every other high school has the same issue with the inability to form a pod and deal with scheduling 20:25:33 From Dara Ambrose : There is no face to face teach time right now 20:25:46 From Kevin : they only get 18 mins to eat and we have a cafC), and 2 gyms, and a huge auditorium plus the hall in the auditorium. That is a lot of square footage:) 20:25:54 From N. Rogers : I think you need to know exactly how many students will be in the high school in order to know how dense the population will be. 20:26:19 From Claudia : I think that going remote was the easy way out especially when over 70 %of parents 20:26:27 From Claudia : wanted hybrid 20:26:30 From Dara Ambrose : I would challenge Dr Maguire to show us the feedback which showed a strong preference for asynchronous interaction 20:27:04 From grace : Again, synchronous is only 2 days per week. The other 2 days they have a 5 minute check in. 20:27:07 From Tracy : true from the original survey 25% wanted remote, 75% wanted hybrid. 20:27:33 From Heidi Felt : Why can they not stream the in person classes at the same time for remote learners. 20:28:22 From Kevin : Exactly Heidi- why not live stram it would be way less on the bandwith. 20:28:35 From PJ MacNeil : I have listened to a lot of SC meetings over the last number of months - what is plan for going remote at K-8 if there are positive tests of teachers or students. would all elementary schools in district go remote if positive tests, or just in a particular town? we are looking for details, not were looking into it. 20:28:40 From Todd Maguire : I meant to say synchronous and corrected myself. Thank you! 20:28:53 From Noella Ricci : Many parents do not feel the same way as they did over the summer. Full remote is not working well for many. The students need a choice. 20:29:24 From N. Rogers : Acton Boxborough is hybrid and they are a larger school district. 20:29:25 From Theresa O'Riorden : When parents were for asynchronous learning, it was before they realized that the asynchronous days were going to be a 5 minute attendance check in. 20:29:31 From Tracy : it's working at Acton- Boxborough, Concord-Carlisle, Westford 20:30:13 From grace : Why do you say they are losing the instructional time? They have 85 minutes, face to face with their teacher. Versus 90 minutes on a screen with remote. 20:30:41 From Kevin : The emotional aspect is almost higher right now then the education. The kids are screaming for help! 20:32:01 From Claudia : live streaming thatb s the answer 20:32:22 From Noella Ricci : yes, live streaming! 20:32:29 From Tracy : Yes Leah! 20:32:43 From Claudia : what has nashoba doing with all the government Covid money they received 20:32:54 From Claudia : good job Leah 20:33:37 From Kate Howland : in person learning isnb t just beneficial for socializing, students on IEPs are not getting their accommodations under the current remote model. Social/emotional is important as well but it goes deeper than that with some students. 20:33:43 From Pina's iPhone : we donb t need to sacrifice the academics with the socialization! 20:33:52 From Melissa Whalen : If there are 85 minutes per class in the hybrid model and students only get 2, 45 minute synchronous periods with the remote model, that is almost the exact same amount of academic time -Dylan Whalen 20:34:02 From Noella Ricci : Leah, please help the SC figure out how we can do hybrid with live streaming. 20:34:13 From Tracy : We aren't on opposite sides, we want remote advocates to have that choice and hybrid or in-person advocates to have that choice 20:34:51 From Theresa O'Riorden : Thank you, Leah!!!!! Thatb s exactly what we want to know! 20:35:05 From Tracy : Leah's point is extremely important. LIve streaming would enable current schedule to be continued and is a key point 20:36:13 From N. Rogers : How the survey is written is very important, the last one focused on how the teachers were doing, not the program itself. 20:36:32 From Pina's iPhone : No wants a remote academy. All of our kids deserve Nashoba teachers. If we live stream everyday, then the academics will not be sacrificed. Why is it one or the other? 20:37:54 From Melissa Whalen : Why not? 20:38:02 From N. Rogers : Surveys shouldn't be secret 20:39:46 From Tracy : what did the teachers say in that survey? 20:40:11 From grace : Parents haven't been asked since July how many support going hybrid. 20:40:21 From Theresa O'Riorden : Jason, please also ask her if there can be zoom school committee meetings moving forward, not You Tube. We parents canb t feel heard when we canb t ask questions. It erodes our trust in the school committee and administration. 20:41:35 From N. Rogers : I agree regarding allowing Q&A during school committee 20:41:39 From Tracy : covid is not going away until late 2021 20:41:57 From grace : We have to deal with the reality of Covid. It's not going away any time soon. 20:42:01 From Tracy : so we need to work with what measures are recommended by CDC and DESE that are protective 20:42:08 From Tracy : please answer the question Brooke 20:43:27 From Dara Ambrose : Yes the superintendent needs to be held accountable to provide answers to the parents and selectmen questions which she is not providing. 20:43:40 From Claudia : Covid is not going anywhere yet plans need to be made soon going forward itb s not going away 20:44:59 From Tracy : And can the MOU be changed. We are in a pandemic, this is an emergency, we need live streaming like most of the other schools around us 20:45:22 From N. Rogers : Can the SC come up with the survey questions at next week's meeting? 20:46:53 From PJ MacNeil : 6 weeks - around holiday break. 20:49:49 From Pina's iPhone : Itb s up to the parents exclusively. This should be a community, district, DESE and State decision! The results of one survey going forward is a ridiculous way to make decisions. 20:50:14 From Pina's iPhone : Itb s NOT up... 20:50:34 From June : I agree, Pina. 20:51:12 From Claudia : Jason thank you for your great questions and actually getting some answers 20:51:20 From Heidi Felt : August 26th the DOE posted that minimal physical distance of 3 feet between students with masks and other safety measures, by evidence and substantiated by guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics and world health organization. Yes 6 feet is preferred when feasible. Line 5 of the Fall Reopening Frequently asked Questions Updated August 26, 2020. 20:51:41 From Pina's iPhone : Yes heb s definitely cutting through the bs! 20:52:02 From grace : You either need broader parent representation or those parent reps need to actually take the pulse. That didn't happen adequately over the summer. 20:52:07 From Michelle Tuck : Just because a few parents were on a committee doesn't mean we should sit back and accept the decisions, we need to understand all of the issues. 20:53:09 From Dara Ambrose : I don't believe there was a transparent process to select those parent reps which limits their ability to represent the wider community 20:54:59 From Hollister : buses are em 20:55:04 From grace : Nobody expects normal 20:55:06 From Kevin : My son said in 3 years his bus was never close to being full. Seniors and Jrs drive 20:55:07 From Heidi Felt : Many high schoolers drive 20:55:07 From Claudia : kids drive and most parents can drive 20:55:33 From grace : How are other schools solving the bus problem? Benchmarking is crucial to finding solutions quickly. 20:56:05 From Hollister : sorry meant to ask - how many people are using the busses right now? Hale busses seem very empty. 20:57:51 From Dara Ambrose : The statement around 3x the buses is incorrect. With a hybrid model where students attend school 2/5 of the days and only 70% of students are in hybrid school it works out to a similar level of bus demand. This is another example of deflection by the Superintendent. 20:58:23 From grace : Why isn't that important for high schoolers? 20:58:24 From Pina's iPhone : my freshman still hasnb t met his teachers! 20:58:53 From Kevin : Our HS kids need to meet their teachers! 20:59:46 From N. Rogers : Thank you for posting the chat 21:03:53 From Terri : How will you ensure that students who need to stay remote do not have a complete upheaval of their classes if the school goes back hybrid? Will you allow them to live stream their classes? 21:04:17 From Tracy : My daughter who loves academics is feeling unmotivated this year. Remote is causing this feeling and part of the social/emotional toll. 21:05:26 From grace : I don't see how a student's motivation and engagement level can be determined across a screen. 21:05:45 From grace : Is that program only for students on IEPs? 21:06:09 From Tracy : exactly Grace - they are reaching out to a few vulnerable students but no way do they really know with students not F2F with teachers at all 21:06:45 From Michelle Tuck : Yes, please have follow up meetings! This is a better way to communicate than the existing SC meetings, it is great that we have some advocates in the Selectmen! 21:08:11 From Heidi Paulter : Many students don't know how or can't advocate for themselves. The Parents need to be included in emails regarding the support center so they can encourage the student to utilize the resources. 21:09:20 From Michelle Tuck : Open meetings would be a great start - let us ask questions live! 21:09:56 From Tracy : Yes Michelle! 21:10:15 From Claudia : agreed with stan 100% 21:12:10 From Michelle Tuck : I am pleased that the Selectmen are pushing, these points need to be made. 21:12:29 From Tracy : agreed Stan 21:13:24 From Lindsey : These are very broad strokes to say every parent feels this way 21:14:24 From Theresa O'Riorden : Thank you, Stan!!! Thatb s exactly how I feel. 21:14:44 From Pina's iPhone : I think communication issues are definitely spot on! 21:14:55 From grace : Thanks Bob, very well said. 21:17:25 From Tracy : many parents have written emails that have not been responded to, including us 21:18:20 From Michelle Tuck : This is not the Selectmen's fault, they are deflecting. This is a communication problem with the Administration. 21:18:24 From Pequita Loring : in our experience myself and my husband have communicated our concerns to Superintendent Clenchy for her response and ccd the whole school committee as a matter of courtesy however our questions have been only responded by the school chair . 21:19:08 From qjiang : A true leader won't be blaming everybody else, especially in this difficult time. Accountability is the key issue. 21:20:36 From Pequita Loring : fantastic can you please call a meeting that everyone can communicate their concerns 21:20:43 From Robert Czekanski : There are many other examples 21:21:11 From Michelle Tuck : This discussion should continue in 1 week, not in 1 month. This is too important. 21:21:22 From Tracy : correct Megan - please set up a meeting to address the concerns as soon as possible 21:23:26 From June : Agree...one month is too long to wait. 21:23:49 From Pequita Loring : Respectively next month may be too late to address the issues on hand- I would ask for a meeting at a sooner timeline given we are in a crisis situation right now. 21:24:31 From Tracy : didn't the school receive ~$900k in covid funds? 21:27:21 From Theresa O'Riorden : When the next poll comes out, please ask how many kids would take the bus, if there is a hybrid option offered. I suspect many kids would be driving, and there will be less busses needed. 21:28:21 From Tracy : how much did you spend? 21:28:49 From Claudia : what is the school doing with this kind of money ??? and no in person learning 21:30:45 From Kevin : And I have to supply my sons masks! 21:36:00 From grace : Can the high school survey be ready for review next week? Does it need to take 3 weeks? 21:36:39 From Michelle Tuck : Please meet next week regardless, the longer it takes the more upset the parents get. This is a good platform, let's meet again next week. 21:37:01 From grace : We'd like to hear about the plans in the back pocket. 21:37:52 From Heidi Felt : So wait yet another month, 2-3 weeks for a survey with another 2 weeks for review? 21:38:01 From grace : That's why we are asking for metrics. What would trigger a return to in person? 21:38:19 From PJ MacNeil : you are the experts, what are the plans and criteria - why depend on surveys? 21:38:29 From Dara Ambrose : There is no way a survey should take 6 weeks. SurveyMonkey could have results in a week. 21:38:39 From PJ MacNeil : lead please not be led 21:39:09 From N. Rogers : why will survey take 3 weeks to send out? can't you send it out next week? 21:39:12 From Hollister : How many families have already left our district since September? The longer we wait, the more will leave. 21:40:24 From Claudia : my son in 7 th grade has left the district 21:40:55 From Dara Ambrose : Let the school committee have open meetings like this one so we can have parent dialog. 21:42:24 From Pequita Loring : yes Mary Mc Carthy I would agree the messages are always deferred . 21:42:46 From Janice Merrill : having my high school student home with me is but the problem. 21:42:49 From Janice Merrill : not 21:43:51 From Dara Ambrose : Dr McCarrthy many of the questions raised tonight were submitted to the school committee - they were not answered and that is part of the issue. 21:44:21 From N. Rogers : We have all sent these questions to the committee so it's not accurate to say this is the first time you are hearing them. 21:44:51 From Janice Merrill : I also believe another problem is the communication and transparency from the Superintendent. 21:46:05 From grace : Dr. McCarthy I emailed the SC and admin last Saturday, very respectfully asking for partnership and recognizing the enormous effort that has occurred, while also asking for a plan going forward. I have not had a response from anyone. 21:47:19 From Terri : Many of the parents support the school committee and administration and appreciate all of the time and work you put into helping our kids. Not everyone is unhappy. 21:51:17 From N. Rogers : Totally agree Leah 21:52:08 From Don Anderson : great job Meghan! 21:52:17 From grace : Thank you Megan 21:52:31 From Janice Merrill : Thank you 21:52:35 From Pina's iPhone : Yes we need this to be all three community-wide, not just those on this meeting. 21:52:38 From Theresa O'Riorden : Thank you, Meghan! 21:52:39 From Dan and Chris Miller : Thank you Megan. 21:52:44 From June : Thank you, Megan.